The Idaho Senate approved banning most abortions after the 20th week of pregnancy due to concerns that the fetuses could feel pain. The vote on the plan was 24-10, with Senate Democrats strongly objecting to the plan.

"If you abort a child after the 20th week, you are inflicting pain on that child," said Sen. Chuck Winder, R-Boise, who sponsored the legislation, which is based on a Nebraska law created last year. It would outlaw abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy, which are rare, unless the pregnant woman risks death or a permanent physical disability by continuing the pregnancy.

Winder said the legislation is backed by conservative groups opposing abortion rights, but that the legislation isn't an effort to challenge Roe v. Wade, the U.S. Supreme Court case that created the legal framework for abortion laws.

Democrats' opposition to the plan was fueled largely on opinions from the Idaho attorney general's office that the legislation could be unconstitutional and could allow male rapists to sue if their victims have an abortion after the 20-week mark.

"I heap my scorn on this bill," said Sen. Elliot Werk, D-Boise. "That is is utterly disrespectful of our population. I can't believe what I'm hearing on the floor today, that we are willing to provide a legal remedy to rapists because it won't be such an issue."

Winder said that a husband accused of rape should have legal standing if his wife has an abortion after the 20-week mark. Other supporters said such situations are unlikely to come to pass.

Sen. Dan Schmidt, D-Moscow, said the wording of the plan could make it difficult for doctors who induce deliveries or perform C-sections on expecting mothers. Schmidt said such actions are often done for reasons other than the health of the mother or fetus, bringing up the example of delivering a child before a father is sent off to Iraq.

"We are discussing a bill that potentially could make many doctors in this state felons, unknowingly," Schmidt said. "This is a fatal flaw for this bill."

Three Republicans opposed the plan. Sen. Joyce Broadsword, R-Sagle, said since the plan could be unconstitutional, it could lead to lawsuits. "We're putting good money after bad paying attorney's fees for things we can't afford," she said.

The 20-week mark would come approximately in the middle of the second trimester of pregnancy. Abortion rights, as set out by the Supreme Court starting in Roe v. Wade, allow states to restrict abortions in the third trimester of pregnancy, but limits in the second trimester must avoid imposing an undue burden on women seeking abortions.

The legislation now heads to the Idaho House for consideration.

BOISE - The Idaho Senate has voted 24-10 in favor of banning abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy on grounds of fetal pain, despite an attorney general’s opinion warning that the bill is likely unconstitutional.

"So here we go again, folks, we're passing legislation that we know is unconstitutional," warned Sen. Joyce Broadsword, R-Sagle, who opposed the measure. "We're putting good money after bad."

The bill makes no exceptions for cases of rape, incest, or severe fetal abnormalities, nor would it permit consideration of the mother's mental or psychological health; it would allow post-20 weeks abortions only to save the mother's life or physical health.

Idaho spent nearly three-quarters of a million dollars defending unconstitutional anti-abortion legislation its Legislature passed in the 1990s, including $380,000 in attorney fees the state was ordered to pay in 2007 to Planned Parenthood of Idaho after that group challenged unconstitutional provisions in a 2005 abortion parental consent law.

Sen. Chuck Winder, R-Meridian, said he thought the bill, SB 1165, was "worthy of our consideration during a very stressful legislative session," because of new, though disputed, scientific information regarding when a fetus feels pain.

"This is to take a bite out of the apple, to move it back, under new science, new information that's available to us," he said, "relating to pain suffered in the event of an abortion."

Since the landmark 1973 Roe vs. Wade decision by the U.S. Supreme Court, states have been banned from restricting abortion prior to the point that the fetus is considered viable, or able to survive outside the womb, though courts have been increasingly open to certain types of restrictions. The 20-week bill departs from that viability standard, which generally doesn't permit state bans on abortion before roughly 24 weeks, though viability is determined on a case-by-case basis. In a committee hearing on the bill, doctors testified that no provider in Idaho offers abortions beyond the 16th week.

Sen. Sheryl Nuxoll, R-Cottonwood, told the Senate that the thinking behind the bill is that U.S. Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy has cited fetal pain issues in his writing on abortion. "It just seems like there's a very great chance, with Kennedy being the deciding vote on the Supreme Court," she said. "In his decisions ... he talked about the fetal pain. ... That's our contention is that this would be upheld by the Supreme Court if it came to that point."

Sen. Michelle Stennett, D-Ketchum, spoke against the bill, citing cases of serious fetal abnormalities. "These are fetal conditions that are incompatible with life outside of the womb after birth. This bill would not allow the parents to have a choice, but would require the mother to go through a painful birth, because natural vaginal birth is painful, only to watch the baby die," she said. In those cases, the pregnant woman would be forced to carry the pregnancy to term rather than have an abortion after 20 weeks.

Stennett also noted that the bill would give a rapist standing to sue a doctor over a post-20 weeks abortion; it permits such legal action by the biological father of the fetus, without restriction.

Both Winder and Nuxoll said the issue of rapists probably wouldn't arise because most pregnancies that are a result of rape are detected before 20 weeks. "Usually in rape they check the woman right away," Nuxoll told the Senate.

Sen. Elliot Werk, D-Boise, told the Senate, "I can't believe what I'm hearing on the floor today, that we are willing to provide a legal remedy to rapists because we don't think it'll be such an issue." He declared, "I heap my scorn on this bill."

Sen. Dan Schmidt, D-Moscow, a doctor, said, "We have a problem here. ... We are discussing a bill that potentially could make many doctors in this state felons unknowingly." The way the bill is written, he said, it redefines gestational age to calculate it from the date of fertilization, and it defines inducing labor as an abortion. "In my opinion this is a fatal flaw for this bill," said Schmidt, who noted that the Idaho Medical Association opposes it for that reason.

Broadsword said, "We're having to choose between our morals and our ethics. When we vote for an unconstitutional bill, we put our ethics in danger." She said, "I don't think that this is good legislation. It's not written properly. There are problems with the bill. If you want to address this issue, come back and do it right - do it so that it's constitutional."

The measure now moves to the House.